One Car Garage - Nissan

"Eric Siedlecki" (esiedlecki)
09/05/2013 at 14:00 • Filed to: One Car Garage, OCG, Nissan

Welcome to One Car Garage, in which I choose a manufacturer, and you decide one single vehicle that they make or made (no matter how old, no matter how exclusive) to live with for the rest of your life. This is your only vehicle, and all expenses are paid for, including price of entry, insurance, gas, etc.

Yesterday I had a tough time coming to a decision with !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! . Today though, will be one of the easier decisions I’ll make when it comes to One Car Garage. We’re going with Nissan.

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Sometimes when I’m picking a car, I may have something in mind (like yesterday’s NSX) that I’d absolutely love to have, but I’m not so in love that it’s impracticalities make it worth the hassle of it being my only car. You can see where I’ve overcome this with a couple of my decisions in the past (RS200). When it comes to Nissan, I’m so in love with the GT-R that I don’t care that it has a small rear seat and not a ton of storage space. I don’t care that if I ever have kids, they’re going to be stuck crawling into the back seat for as long as they ride in the car with me. It’s just something we’re all going to have to live with, and dear jebus will it be glorious.

DISCUSSION (90)

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Eric Siedlecki
09/05/2013 at 14:03

Don't say Juke-R. Just... don't.

PowderHound > Eric Siedlecki
09/05/2013 at 14:03

pick me pick me!

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Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager > Eric Siedlecki
09/05/2013 at 14:03

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The R34 Skyline GT-R Z-Tune. Because R34 Skyline GT-R Z-Tune.

Xesty > Eric Siedlecki
09/05/2013 at 14:04

As a forever car I would say the newest gen Maxima. 4 Doors so it is family friendly and decent power when you mash it. I have the 2005 (6th gen) Maxima and the car is fun but man... it's ugly lol.

Casper > Eric Siedlecki
09/05/2013 at 14:05

240Z... hey, it's kind of a Nissan.

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AbigGRNboot > Eric Siedlecki
09/05/2013 at 14:05

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More practical than the R35 with a large fraction of the ability, and that green.

505Turbeaux > Eric Siedlecki
09/05/2013 at 14:05

odd enough I would just pimp out an old Patrol over here in the states. Look about right?

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Eric Siedlecki > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
09/05/2013 at 14:05

I love the Juke-R.

kouryuuk > Eric Siedlecki
09/05/2013 at 14:07

Although the GT-R is a great car, it's not something I can fall head over heels in love with. A 240 would be fun but that would only last for a little while, I need something I can come home to, something that will always be there with that pretty face ready to do whatever I want, I would want a Patrol.

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In UN spec please.

Eric Siedlecki > PowderHound
09/05/2013 at 14:07

A real Stagea would be a damn good choice.

Xesty > Xesty
09/05/2013 at 14:07

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BadMatt > Casper
09/05/2013 at 14:07

Omfg! Awesome picture of an awesome car!

Xesty > PowderHound
09/05/2013 at 14:07

GTR Wagon? When was that thing made lol

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Eric Siedlecki
09/05/2013 at 14:09

It is delightfully nutty, but incredibly ugly.

I could not bear to look at that thing every day.

Union of Smog Techs of CA > Eric Siedlecki
09/05/2013 at 14:09

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Silly question!

But I would be perfectly happy with this too

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Hoccy > Eric Siedlecki
09/05/2013 at 14:09

Nissan Laurel with a diesel-engine. I would prefer a swap to the 3.3 Patrol engine, but a tuned 2.8 would do as well.

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Sparf > Casper
09/05/2013 at 14:09

What do you mean "kind of"? It's as Nissan as Nissan gets!

Sparf > Xesty
09/05/2013 at 14:10

It's a Nissan Stagea with an R35 GT-R front clip.

PowderHound > Xesty
09/05/2013 at 14:11

Well there was the Stagea…

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I think this gtr version is fairly recent and just a one off

Xesty > Sparf
09/05/2013 at 14:11

Yeah just found it, they did a good job molding it together though lol

Union of Smog Techs of CA > Casper
09/05/2013 at 14:11

If you want an S30 at least get a 432R

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GhostZ > Eric Siedlecki
09/05/2013 at 14:13

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This is not a question.

The Datsun Z432 was a race-ready road car version of the 240z, which included a spoiler, fender flares for track slicks, and verticle exhaust tips. Most importantly, it had a DOHC 4v 2l I6 engine good for 160HP and was a dominant racecar at the time. Better than just gaining power, it lost over 200lbs by moving to the more powerful engine, and the whole car (already a featherweight) was lightened further. It isn't fast by today's standard, but at around 2000lbs, it would give a 1969 Corvette a run for its money. For comparison, it weighed about the same (or less) than a Miata, had 50% more power, and was available 20 years earlier.

By today's standards, it's not very fast. But it is still quick, rare, beautiful, and so absurdly expensive that I couldn't get a (almost equally loved) R32 if I had the option to get the Z432.

Casper > Sparf
09/05/2013 at 14:13

Nah, it took over 10 years for the Z's with a Nissan badge to not suck.... oh wait ;)

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Just screwing with you.

Sparf > Xesty
09/05/2013 at 14:15

IMO, it's better with an R33 or R34 GT-R front. The R33 front conversion is extra cool because the Stagea is technically an R33.

Dsscats > Eric Siedlecki
09/05/2013 at 14:15

Definately an R34 GTR.

GhostZ > Union of Smog Techs of CA
09/05/2013 at 14:15

Supposedly there is still an R390, completely untouched, sitting in a Nissan Museum or Factory somewhere. It was built for Homogolation, but they couldn't find a buyer, so it was never sold.

Casper > Union of Smog Techs of CA
09/05/2013 at 14:15

It would be cool for collection sake, but I wouldn't want to have to drive it all the time... not to mention it would be impossible to find parts for. I would rather just get a regular S30 and modify it without feeling like I was destroying history.

Dsscats > Xesty
09/05/2013 at 14:16

Its actually a Stagea with a GTR front clip. It would be awesome with an engine swap, but it still has the stock engine, transmission and brakes.

Sparf > Eric Siedlecki
09/05/2013 at 14:17

You should know my answer by now, but still:

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1986½-1989 Nissan Fairlady 200ZR-I ("-I" as in slicktop) with an RB26DETT swap (making it a "260ZR").

Breakfast Burrito: The True Resident Burrito > Eric Siedlecki
09/05/2013 at 14:18

I'd take this Nissan Hardbody

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It looks like money.

Union of Smog Techs of CA > Casper
09/05/2013 at 14:18

he said it was all paid for!

Sparf > Casper
09/05/2013 at 14:18

Meh, looks like an '86 (Z31 Chuki, a sort of half-facelift if you will) with T-Tops, no thanks!

And have you forgotten that the S30 and S130 were Nissan-badged in Japan?

Kurisu95 > Eric Siedlecki
09/05/2013 at 14:19

Kinja'd!!!

Hakosuka Sedan GT-R

GhostZ > Hoccy
09/05/2013 at 14:20

Those 2.8 diesel engines are almost worth their weight in gold here in the US. Or at least, the crankshafts are. It's the only way (outside of a custom made part) to make a 3.1l stroker L motor.

So... uh... if you're not going to be using that 2.8... can I have it?

GhostZ > Kurisu95
09/05/2013 at 14:24

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think they ever made a Hakosuka GT-R sedan. They made a regular sedan, and a sport version called the 2000GT-X, but they didn't share very much with the GT-R. The GT-R and other trims were 2-door only.

Union of Smog Techs of CA > GhostZ
09/05/2013 at 14:24

I think they couldnt bring themselves to part with it.

I also want this:

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Before the 458, before the s2000, a freakin Sentra Hatch had the highest HP/L output NA engine.

Milky > Eric Siedlecki
09/05/2013 at 14:25

Yupp, without a doubt.

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Sparf > PowderHound
09/05/2013 at 14:27

Nope, there's nothing production about it. It's just some tuners who chopped up an R35 and a Stagea and welded together what they were left with.

Casper > Union of Smog Techs of CA
09/05/2013 at 14:29

Never believe someone named Eric... now have fun tuning THREE carbs rather than the already PITA two.

Sparf > GhostZ
09/05/2013 at 14:29

Yup, that's correct.

Sparf > Kurisu95
09/05/2013 at 14:30

Like GhostZ said, there was no Hakosuka GT-R sedan. In fact, there's never been a production four door GT-R.

The 2000GT-X is said to be pretty nice though, just not as nice as the GT-R.

Sparf > Union of Smog Techs of CA
09/05/2013 at 14:31

Oooh, the one with the SR16VE? Awesome car indeed.

HammerheadFistpunch > kouryuuk
09/05/2013 at 14:32

The patrol is sweet, good choice.

Casper > Sparf
09/05/2013 at 14:32

I didn't forget, I just repress it until it is no longer part of my reality. To be fair the Nissan name has been used for what, over 80 years? It just didn't count until they finally killed the Datsun name off which had been around since almost 20 years before that. If they hadn't killed Datsun it would have been 100 years old next year.

HammerheadFistpunch > Casper
09/05/2013 at 14:32

240z in a heartbeat.

dinobot666 > Eric Siedlecki
09/05/2013 at 14:34

A 510 wagon, done up about like this one:

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PowderHound > Sparf
09/05/2013 at 14:35

I didn't think it was production but I really thought it had the GTR drivetrain. Turns out it doesn't :(

Union of Smog Techs of CA > Casper
09/05/2013 at 14:35

S.U.'s are so easy to tune! I used a smog machine to tune mine under load on a dyno, so simple. Only problem was slight vac leak at the throttle pin bores I had to compensate for. I had just put electronic guts in the dizzy and it ran so good, had fresh bushings and shocks too. Was stolen next morning.

Sparf > Casper
09/05/2013 at 14:35

If you're going to use that angle, you should call it DAT and not Datsun, that's the oldest name of the company.

Hoccy > GhostZ
09/05/2013 at 14:36

If I ever engine-swap one of these you'll be the first on my list ;)

Your boy, BJR > Eric Siedlecki
09/05/2013 at 14:38

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Datsun Sunny panel van. I.....I don't know why either. Saw this one off of John Islip Street in London

Milky > Sparf
09/05/2013 at 14:39

Doesn't it have part of the GTR drivetrain? like base engine? Also I like the newer one ....

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GhostZ > Casper
09/05/2013 at 14:40

Done. New desktop.

Casper > Union of Smog Techs of CA
09/05/2013 at 14:43

Round tops? The most annoying part is when they get old they don't hold a tune for crap until you rebuild them... then they are great until they wear a bit. I also hate the brass fitting wearing on the throttle bar that makes them stick when opening.

Casper > Sparf
09/05/2013 at 14:44

DAT it is... I will now have DAT S30 and you can have DAT Z32.

Sparf > Milky
09/05/2013 at 14:52

The first and second generations (WC34 Series 1 and 2) more-or-less had the exact same engines and RWD/AWD drivetrain options as the Skyline, with the limited production Autech 260RS Version being a GT-R in all but name. It had several RWD and AWD trims, with the RB20E (no D means SOHC, so it was pretty weak) and RB25DE available in the base RWD models and the RB25DE and RB25DET being available if you optioned for AWD.

The later 2001-2007 M35 (which is the one in the picture) was powered by various VQ series V6 engines, ranging from the N/A VQ25DD to the N/A VQ35DE and the turbocharged VQ25DET.

It's all on Wikipedia, actually.

Milky > Sparf
09/05/2013 at 14:57

Sparf got that JDM knowledge yo! Thanks though that cleared some stuff in my brain up. While its not a GTR wagon, its still really damn cool.

Sparf > Milky
09/05/2013 at 14:59

Nah, I'm just one of those weird people who actually enjoy reading Wikipedia articles, and often complement them with more dedicated sources of knowledge.

In this case I based most of it on what I've read on the Wikipedia page.

Sparf > Casper
09/05/2013 at 14:59

But I don't want a Z32 :(

Casper > Sparf
09/05/2013 at 15:03

Too bad. If we are all driving DATs now, you have to drive an approved one ;)

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Sparf > Casper
09/05/2013 at 15:05

Ugh, that front...

Union of Smog Techs of CA > Casper
09/05/2013 at 15:06

Yeah, I had a '71. I rebuilt the carbs with his kit http://www.ztherapy.com/navbar/home.ht…

Casper > Union of Smog Techs of CA
09/05/2013 at 15:13

Yep, back when they had the good SUs. My 71 wasn't bad, but this 73 was less than ideal... so I ripped it's guts out in favor of a fuel injected modern engine. Interestingly enough, I actually have been down to the Z Therapy shop and had them help tune and rebuild carbs for my 71 back in the day. Nice people.

Eric Siedlecki > Casper
09/05/2013 at 15:19

Hey, I'm an honest guy! You gotta believe me!

Casper > Eric Siedlecki
09/05/2013 at 15:29

Oh, ok, in that case I will...

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Babz > Eric Siedlecki
09/05/2013 at 15:29

Kinja'd!!!

Always loved Z32's

Union of Smog Techs of CA > Casper
09/05/2013 at 15:30

What engine? I was always planning on VH or VK while I had s30s, but I've grown up since then, now I just want an FJ20, or an LZ20B.

Kurisu95 > Sparf
09/05/2013 at 15:31

According to Wikipedia it was available as a sedan. "The first Skyline GT-R, known by the internal Nissan designation PGC10 , was released on February 4, 1969. It was available originally as a four-door sedan after a public debut at the October 1968 Tokyo Motor Show . It was advertised alongside the Nissan R380 racecar to showcase the Skyline's racing heraldry. It was equipped with the 2.0 L DOHC S20 I6 producing 160 hp (120 kW) at 7000 rpm and 177 N·m (131 ft·lbf) of torque at 5600 rpm. Power was delivered to the rear wheels by a 5-speed manual transmission . The first Skyline GT-R rode on a semi-trailing arm strut suspension. It was available as a coupe in March 1971 with the chassis code KPGC10 ."

Casper > Union of Smog Techs of CA
09/05/2013 at 15:33

I was actually going to do a Rebello stroker, but I decided I want this car to be my new DD, so I'm going with an SR20DET. Better parts availability, easy to make power from, and moved the weight distribution back significantly. I also looked at doing an RB26DETT, then getting the HKS kit for it later on and making it an RB30, but it would not really get the feel I was looking for. I started the project after having an S2000 and wanted to make a "better" S2000 for the price of the one I had. I don't know if it will be better, but it will be a lot more powerful, lighter, as good balance, have better brakes, and look classic.

A buddy is doing a VH swap into his Z32. We are going to go race back to back when it's done to compare the builds.

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Sparf > Kurisu95
09/05/2013 at 15:34

Oh crap, I completely forgot about the PGC10! I guess it goes to show that I'm actually not that big of a Hakosuka nut.

Decay buys too many beaters > Eric Siedlecki
09/05/2013 at 15:34

As much as I'm impressed with all the tech in the GT-R, I'm a bit of a RWD elitist. That being said, I'd definitely go with the R390, even though Godzilla would surely beat it in every quantifiable performance measurement.

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Eric Siedlecki > Decay buys too many beaters
09/05/2013 at 15:39

Why not have your cake and eat it, too? Have the R33 GT-R Le Mans. The only RWD road-goaing GT-R since the Kenmeri.

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Decay buys too many beaters > Eric Siedlecki
09/05/2013 at 15:42

OH HELL YES!

How did I not know about this?!?

Corey CC97, MAZDA DPI IS STILL BAE JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV JOESTACTIV VISIT FLORIDA RACING LIVES FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS > Eric Siedlecki
09/05/2013 at 16:01

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A Skyline for sure. Not sure which one, though. Can't decide. So, here's a picture of an R34.

GhostZ > Decay buys too many beaters
09/05/2013 at 16:09

You didn't play enough Gran Turismo!

Wonk Unit > Eric Siedlecki
09/05/2013 at 16:18

Tough choice between any GTR except for the R35, and a 300Zx Turbo. or a 240z. aww crap.

RMudkips > Eric Siedlecki
09/05/2013 at 16:53

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A white Kenmeri Skyline with a GT-R body kit and some badass stuff on it.

RMudkips > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
09/05/2013 at 16:54

On the bright side, if you're driving it you won't see it.

Union of Smog Techs of CA > Casper
09/05/2013 at 16:56

You and your friend are making polar opposite Z's, cool! Easy to work on and light, and impossible to work on and fat!

Eric Siedlecki > RMudkips
09/05/2013 at 16:57

Yumm.......

Casper > Union of Smog Techs of CA
09/05/2013 at 16:58

Pretty much. He's dropping an M112 blower on his, so he will eat me alive in flat out, but it will be fun... especially when his breaks and I drive mine home lol.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > RMudkips
09/05/2013 at 17:02

I'd see enough.

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Union of Smog Techs of CA > Casper
09/05/2013 at 17:03

I doubt I'll ever have the money or time but this would be a nice fit in my 350Z...

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Casper > Union of Smog Techs of CA
09/05/2013 at 17:43

I was shocked how cheap the VH45DE engines had gotten. A few hundred bucks and you can get a decent 4.5 liter, fuel injected, V8 with potential now a days. Makes me really question people who drop carbureted Chevy 350s into their Zs now.